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An Interview with
Jeff Christie
(Extracts from a series of chats conducted by Ray Chan)
1)
On the Outer Limits
The group's members were Stan Drogie (drums), Gerry Smith
(bass), Gerry Layton (rhythym guitar), and Jeff Christie (lead
guitar, lead vocals and keyboards). This was the line-up that
played on the the singles When the Work
is Thru, Just One More Chance, and Great
Train Robbery.
Great Train Robbery should have
been a hit, even arranger Tony Meehan and producer Andrew
Oldham thought so. But the BBC ever wishing to stay
apolitical did not give the single airplay because
they felt it had something to do with the great train robbery
in the UK at the time, even though the song clearly was about
an incident in the US in the 19th century.
Gerry Layton left before the group accompanied
Jimi Hendrix on a pop package tour in November 1967, and was
replaced by Steve Isherwood. Stan left the following year,
and was replaced by Rod Palmer.
This new line-up soldiered on for a while until
the demise in late '68 or maybe early '69, it's hard to be
exact here, but this break-up became the subject of a Yorkshire
Television documentary titled 'Death
of a Pop Group'.
2) On Christie's first
album
We
had to produce the first album in a rush, because of the success
of Yellow River. But Mike
Blakley had left by that time, and we had not got Paul in
yet. Despite being credited on the album, Mike did not play
drums on it, although he did play knife and Coke bottle on
Coming Home Tonight.
Mike only ever played drums on the 'B' side of
the Yellow River single, Down the Mississippi
Line, after that it was session drummies all the way
till Paul joined, whose first session was Man
of Many Faces.
Clem Cattini (drummer with the Tornados) and
Hugh Grundy (from the great UK band the Zombies) were much
featured on the first album, but I had to overdub Clem's drums
on San Bernadino as there were
technical complications at the mixing stage.
Clem played on San Bernadino,
Put Your Money Down, Inside Looking Out, and possibly
New York City, while Hugh did
the others. They were both outstanding drummers.
3) On Christie's second album
As a songwriter, I write for all genres. The Christie
sound came about when I was in my country rock phase. But
many of my other compositions were different types of songs.
My Outer Limits works had a harder edge, and my solo stuff
was also of a more "mature" style.
By the time of the second album, the three of
us had settled down and were a solid, tight unit. We had already
been playing some harder rock on stage, so I decided to incorporate
some of this material on the album.
But the best song was probably the title track,
which was a ballad. For All Mankind
could have been more lavishly arranged; I spent a lot of time
with producer Martin Clarke on the song, and originally I
had planned to use a brass band on it. It's a song which I
think has dated and I would very much like to redo it if I
have the opportunity.
4) Memories of some Christie songs
Fools' Gold was a frustrating
session. I remember we hired a sitar player to come in and
play on the track, but he couldn't get it right. In the end,
I almost decided to play the instrument myself.
Iron Horse was written
when we were in Spain. I particularly arranged the guitar
introduction so that it gave the impression of rolling wheels.
In chronological order, the singles after The
Dealer were Guantanamera, Alabama,
and Most Wanted Man in the USA. Most
Wanted Man/Rockin' Suzanna was the last Christie single.
Guantanamera,
backed by Navajo, were cover
versions of Spanish songs recorded for our South American
fans. I remember Roger Flavell, our bass player, singing through
the sessions with a very heavy cold. I had always wanted to
have a bass player in the group so I could come on to keyboards.
Roger replaced Lem, whom we had taken in to play bass instead
of me. In the beginning, when there were only three of us,
I played bass only because it was expedient for me to do so.
When Christie were hot, people liked our stuff
and were throwing songs at us. Some were so good we couldn't
turn them down. The Ruzicka song, The
Dealer, was one of them. Originally, it was a slow
ballad, but I rearranged it to sound like a Christie song.
I did a similar adaptation for Most
Wanted Man, for which I changed the bridge.
(Click here
to read more of Jeff's thoughts on his other songs.)
5) On a possible third Christie
album
We were always recording songs that could have been possibilities
for the third album, but we were also out of contract at around
that time, so plans were shelved.
One For the Road
was one of the heavier songs we did, like a couple from For
All Mankind. Our country rock songs had us dubbed the
English Creedence a great compliment but we
were also keen to gain a bit more credibility from our peers
by playing harder, more complex material.
We did Tobacco Road
on stage, a cover of a great song, and even the Nashville
Teens agreed our version was much better than theirs! It used
to feature a drum solo from Paul when we performed it live.
6)
On going solo
After Paul left, it was a difficult period and I did a
lot of soul-searching. Paul and I had been, and still are,
very close friends. I didn't do anything for a while, and
did think about restructuring and re-starting the group, which
I did with a few new players who basically toured with me
(Roger, Terry, Danny and the Capability Brown members).
I put together a solo album of songs around 1979/80.
It was the best album I'd ever done. But it was never released.
The singles that did come out (Both
Ends of the Rainbow, Tightrope) contain songs from the
album sessions.
7) On unreleased songs
A lot of unreleased and unfinished songs are on demos,
cassettes and tapes.
I also recorded songs in Denmark for a "Best
of and Rest of" CD .. but that never got off the ground,
and the tapes are still there. The project involved me redoing
some of the old Christie tracks, and recording new ones. While
at Gil Markle's Long View Farm, I recorded
about five new tracks.
I am still writing, and
have many new songs.
I would certainly like to produce a CD of my
favourite Christie songs. That's in the pipeline, but I need
to get the project together, to find a producer or label.
I am heartened that people are still recording
my songs .. not only Yellow River,
but others as well. A Finnish band has recently recorded Until
the Dawn.
8) On the future
I tour occasionally with my new band; we've been on tours
of Russia and Germany, which were great. I would love to perform
anywhere in the world .. like we did in Russia. But the most
likely venues will be in Germany, where there is a big market
for "oldies" groups.
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Guitar players have their own personal heroes, and Jeff
is no excepion. Two masters he holds in high regard
are the legendary Hank Marvin (who lives only 10 minutes
away from your webmaster) of The Shadows, and Alvin
Lee from Ten Years After.
Jeff
reminisces about Hank: "I first met Hank (and Bruce
Welch) when the Shadows played the Grand Theatre, Leeds,
when I was a big fan aged about 14.
"Hank was El Supremo in those days.
I and a couple of mates followed their departure from
the theatre after the show to an artists' guest house
called Dutch Molly's.
"I wanted to talk to my hero and tell
him what the missing chord was for the Kitty Lester
song Love Letters that
he was trying to work out.
"We peered in through the window,
that although somewhat frosted, allowed us some vision
of a blurred form huddled over a dubious upright ..
only to disappear when we tapped on the window!
"Their faithful tour manager Dave
Bryce came to investigate the three scruffs at the door
begging to shake the horn-rimmed one's magic hand, and
thus be forever blessed, which he did, as well as being
normal and nice. We all went home on a magic carpet
after that."
*A few years later, Hank also
gave the thumbs up to the Outer Limits' first single
in the influential TV pop program, Jukebox
Jury.
On
Alvin Lee: "I used to know Alvin and Leo Lyons
(his bass player) from the Outer Limits days when we
used to go see them at the Cro-Magnon in Leeds when
they were part of the Jaybirds.
"They were a great blues and rock
three-piece mid-60s band and we had lots of laughs with
them.
"There were two London brothers called
Cyril and Arnold Entin who had this coffee bar called
the Cyrano, and after moving round the corner in the
early 60s evolved into the Cro-Magnon, which became
a great club for groups from all over the country.
"We played there often as did the
Jaybirds from Nottingham and a kind of friendship developed
between the two bands: we used to have water pistol
fights in the club after all the punters had gone home,
around 2 or 3 am with Arnold and Leo. They both had
a limp and ended up getting soaked because they couldn't
run as fast as everyone else.
"Strangely enough, I never ever came
across Alvin, Leo or Chick Churchill once they or I
became widely successful.
"Cyril had a heart attack and died
in 1990 and a benefit gig for him took place at a venue
in Leeds. The Outer Limits reformed for that gig as
a one-off and it helped kickstart my own restart of
Christie Mark 2 with the first gigs later that year."
*Christie and Ten Years After
did appear on the
same bill at least once.
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